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Scott Horton joins Alec for an in-depth conversation on U.S. foreign policy, the roots of the Israel-Palestine conflict, and how historical narratives continue to shape modern geopolitics. With decades of experience in interviewing, writing, and publishing on American foreign policy, Scott provides clarity on events often clouded by politics and media bias.
Scott unpacks the complex history of Israel’s establishment, the Palestinian perspective, and the long-term consequences of post-1967 territorial shifts.
The conversation explores America’s deep involvement in the region—from secret deals during the 1948 war to Cold War alliances and interventions that continue to shape present realities.
Scott highlights the 1967 USS Liberty incident, one of many examples where critical historical events have been minimized or reinterpreted in mainstream accounts.
They discuss how the rise of AI and endless media sources complicates public understanding of geopolitics, and the need for independent journalism to sort fact from narrative.
Scott introduces his new educational platform, Scott Horton Academy, designed to help people navigate the history and complexities of U.S. foreign policy with a focus on clarity and truth.
About Scott Horton
Scott Horton is the director of the Libertarian Institute, editorial director of Antiwar.com, and host of the long-running Scott Horton Show. He is the author of several books, including:
Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War With Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine (2024)
Enough Already: Time to End the War on Terrorism (2021)
Fool’s Errand: Time to End the War in Afghanistan (2017)
Hotter Than the Sun: Time to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (2022)
Scott has conducted more than 6,000 interviews since 2003 and has contributed articles to The American Conservative, The National Interest, and other outlets. He lives in Austin, Texas with his wife.
Resources and Links
Libertarian Institute
Antiwar.com
Scott Horton Show
Scott Horton Academy
Related Links & References
Fool’s Errand – Scott Horton
Provoked – Scott Horton
Treacherous Alliance – Trita Parsi
A Pretext for War – James Bamford
Provoked Podcast with Scott Horton & Darryl Cooper
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Show Minutes
00:00:00 – Examining U.S. Geopolitics, Israel & Palestine
00:02:10 – Introduction to Scott Horton and His Work
00:07:15 – Historical Context of Israel-Palestine Conflict
00:36:43 – Breaking Down 9/11: Conspiracies vs. Reality
01:22:55 – Neoconservative Strategies and Middle East Conflict
01:42:40 – The Origins of Hamas
01:50:56 – What Led to October 7?
02:00:29 – Breaking Down the Modern-Day Gaza Conflict
02:10:39 – Israel’s Response to October 7
02:20:52 – Addressing the Anti-Hamas Perspective: Human Shields, etc.
02:29:20 – Are War Crimes Taking Place?
02:34:00 – Can You Believe Hamas Propaganda?
02:47:49 – Criticism of Israel vs. Anti-Semitism