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Alec hosts a rare panel exploring “Mindsight”, a developing field of study examining perception beyond the five senses.
This discussion brings together researchers, educators, and parents who have witnessed children develop the ability to perceive and navigate while blindfolded, suggesting the human mind may process light and information through non-visual pathways.
The panel includes Dr. Anna Maria Oliva, Dr. Nick Egan, John Chavez, Dahlia Burgoin, and Paul & Jeanne Leschied, alongside insights from Dr. Edith Ubuntu Chan, whose Luminous Kids program has become a touchpoint in the growing conversation about expanded human perception.
The group explores programs where children demonstrate “mindsight” — perceiving colors, shapes, and movement without using their physical eyes. They discuss sensory substitution, neural adaptability, and the protocols supporting these outcomes.
Panelists address common skepticism, comparing early learners’ struggles to developing any skill — noting how disbelief and pressure can disrupt results, especially in children.
They discuss extended darkroom retreats and frequency-based practices as methods to quiet sensory input and activate other perceptual channels.
The conversation touches on Dr. Tom Cowan’s New Biology Clinic and the shift toward field-based paradigms in both health and education, challenging the idea that consciousness is limited to the brain.
About the Guests
Dr. Ana Maria Oliva — anamariaoliva.com
Dr. Edith Ubuntu Chan — blindfold.vision | dredithubuntu.com
Dr. Nick Egan, PhD — nickeganphd.com | shiftleadership.group
John Chavez — dmtquest.org | endohuasca.com
Dalia Burgoin — extra-ordinaries.com | daliaburgoin.com
Paul & Jeanne Leschied — soulshinecommunity.ca
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Show Minutes
00:00:00 – Blindfold Vision
00:06:28 – Introduction of Guests
00:10:46 – Validity of Blindfold Vision
00:15:58 – Progression in Vision Training
00:23:02 – Seeing Via Sensory Awakening
00:38:18 – Blindfold Training and Intuition
00:50:22 – Testimonial: Blindfold Activation for 12-Year-Old
00:58:14 – Addressing Skepticism of Blindfold Vision
01:26:40 – Mindsight Practice: Eyes Open or Closed
01:42:59 – Learning Extra Sensory Abilities vs. Remembering Them
01:52:39 – Final Takes From the Panel