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Contrary to popular belief, hydration isn’t about how much you drink… It’s about how water functions inside the body. Most people focus on intake while missing the form water needs to support energy, clarity, and resilience at the cellular level. That’s why many feel foggy or depleted despite constantly drinking. Liquid water alone doesn’t create hydration. Ancestral cultures understood this long before measuring ounces. Desert peoples stayed hydrated well before modern plumbing existed.
In this episode, Alec talks with Erin Sojourner, Chief Strategic Officer at Spring Aqua with decades of experience in regenerative agriculture, and Gina Bria, an anthropologist and founder of the Hydration Foundation who studies hydration across cultures and ecosystems. Their work bridges structured water science, living systems, and real-world applications—from soil and food to human energy.
Together, they dismantle hydration myths, discuss fourth phase water, and challenge the assumption that more drinking is always better.
This conversation replaces hydration confusion with a functional model of how water creates energy.
You’ll Learn:
[00:00] Introduction
[08:14] What does true hydration really look like?
[16:53] The three ways water functions beyond being a simple material substance
[21:22] The reason we are walking around still feeling so dehydrated, regardless of how much water we drink
[26:27] The limitations of reverse osmosis and distilled water, and what chia seeds can help with
[42:43] Why trace minerals in water are essential even with nutrient-dense food
[57:05] The biomimicry technology behind Spring Aqua’s system
[01:15:56] Erin’s path from first customer to joining the company
[01:27:40] The upcoming agricultural device
[01:31:23] How water operates at subatomic wave levels
[01:37:43] Why humans are 99% water molecularly and how hydration expands perception
[01:47:41] Gina’s vision for a water-based economy
Resources Mentioned:
Quench by Gina Bria | Book or Audiobook
How to Grow Water — It’s Not Only Blue, It’s Green by Gina Bria | TEDx Talk
The Gnosis and the Law by Tellis S. Papastavro Book
Electrons, The Building Blocks of the Universe and the Elemental Kingdom by Werner and Annette Schroeder | Book
Discover more from our guests:
Spring Aqua | Website
Hydration Foundation | Website
Hydration Foundation | Instagram
Erin Sojourner | Substack
Find more from Alec:
Alec Zeck | Instagram
Alec Zeck | X
The Way Forward | Instagram
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